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i first got to hear sissy and david at the etch family ministry conference in nashville and as a ministry leader and new parent, there was not enough paper for me to record my notes. not only are they wiser than i could ever be, they have a heart for Jesus that permeates their approach. they are authors and counselors, and their website has a blog full of practical information for every parent and ministry leader. we recently hosted them for a parenting conference for the second time at dawson and the response was overwhelming. my favorite part was when the ministerial staff got to sit with them as ask questions about the kids and families we minister to each week. they are the same people in a small group as they are on a stage – authentic and passionate. you can learn more about them and their ministry here – raising boys and girls

1 – what do you see kidmin and family ministry leaders doing right? 
 Making kids feel seen and delighted in and loved… I talk to so many kids who don’t feel that way at home, but have someone who they can point to in their church leadership who has made them feel believed in more than anyone else in their lives. – Sissy Goff
2 – what do you see as the greatest need in kidmin and family ministry right now? 
To speak the truth to kids in love. Parents seem to want so badly to be fun and relatable to their kids…for the kids themselves to be “happy”…to help them through and even rescue them from any pain, that it often seems that these kids don’t have anyone to look to for stability. Kids need desperately for an adult in their life to be bigger than they are…to feel strong and steady…and to point them toward Christ and his strength and steadfastness. Parents can end up valuing their happiness over their character and over the Gospel. We want kids to know that pain is a part of living in a fallen world and that the answer and our security AND hope is found in Christ. Seems like we’re talking around and at them so much about the issues and culture and feelings and technology that we miss the simple truth that Jesus is enough. And that so are we under His love. You all do an amazing job of teaching that. – Sissy Goff
3 – if you could have coffee with every kidmin/fammin leader, what would you want to make sure you shared with them? 
First and most of all, I’d want to thank them for investing in the lives of kids and families. I don’t think there’s ever been a time in history where families need more support. I don’t think it has ever been a harder time to be a kid or adolescent. Therefore, I don’t think it has ever been a harder time to be a parent. There have been 3 school shootings in the last 4 weeks in our country. Two of those happened in a neighboring state, and I had countless conversations this week with kids who spent multiple school days running safety drills in their classrooms. I didn’t spend a moment of my growing up in public schools wondering if someone would enter the building and open fire on me. It has triggered so much fear and anxiety for kids and adolescents. And that’s but one of many issues facing today’s kids in a unique way. I’d remind leaders that never has the world needed a message of hope more than right now.
I’d remind them of how important their voices are, particularly those working with middle and high school students. That’s a moment developmentally where kids are more interested in other voices. They so desperately need other trusted voices in their lives speaking truth to them, listening to them, and supporting them. – David Thomas
4 – what word of encouragement do you have for today’s kidmin/fammin leaders? 
I commonly say to parents that I’m not only saying similar things to what they are saying, but often identical things. Kids can sometimes hear it more clearly from adult voices around them they trust and respect. Your words have such power and impact. I also believe you have that unique place in the lives of students where you get to be a champion and a cheerleader. You can call out who they are becoming, and celebrate the growth and movement you see happening (minus the heavy lifting parents have to do).  – David Thomas
5 – why are you passionate about children’s and family ministry? 
I believe we are doing similar work as counselors and children’s ministers. It’s hard work, that’s for sure, but it’s such meaningful and life-giving work. Every day, we are about the work of shaping and molding young lives. I’ve officially been doing the work long enough to now have parents come in for parent consultations, who I saw as children themselves. It’s such a gift to see them as intentional, passionate, loving parents who are pouring into their children’s emotional and spiritual development. It’s also a gift to have a front row seat to so much redemption – to have seen kids who walked out hard and painful chapters in their own story, become remarkable adults and parents themselves. What rewarding work we’ve been called to do! – David Thomas

SISSY GOFF, M.Ed., LPC-MHSP spends most of her days talking with girls and their families, with the help of her counseling assistant/pet therapist, Lucy the Havanese.  She has worked as the Director of Child and Adolescent Counseling at Daystar Counseling Ministries in Nashville, Tennessee since 1993, with a Master’s degree from Vanderbilt University.  Sissy speaks to parents and children’s ministers across the country, and is the author of nine books including her newest, Are My Kids on Track? The 12 Emotional, Social & Spiritual Milestones Your Child Needs to Reach, as well as Raising Girls. Sissy is a regular contributor to various podcasts and publications and is currently working on a soon-to-be released podcast with David and Melissa based on their book, Are My Kids on Track.

DAVID THOMAS, LMSW

DAVID THOMAS, LMSW is the Director of Family Counseling at Daystar Counseling (daystarcounseling.com) in Nashville, TN, the co-author of eight books, including the best-selling Wild Things: The Art of Nurturing Boys (Tyndale House Publishers), a frequent guest on national television and podcasts, has been featured in publications like USA Today, and speaks across the country.  He recently completed Are My Kids on Track? The 12 Emotional, Social & Spiritual Milestones Your Child Needs to Reach. He and his wife, Connie, have a daughter, twin sons and a feisty yellow lab named Owen.

one of my favorite things about kids and family ministry leaders is their open hearts to share wisdom, ideas, and challenges with other ministry leaders. there is no way i could have made it in ministry without my journey intersecting with so many ministry leader friends i look up to and admire.

so i thought what if i could have coffee with some of my favorite ministry leaders and ask five questions – the same five questions for all of them? well, i am in ministry and don’t have the travel and coffee budget to roam around the country for coffee, but i thought i can do this in a blog format. (and it is free for me and you.)

out of this dreaming came a new blog series i am beginning called “5 questions.” i am so excited about answers i am already getting in from leaders, so look for this new series on here.

who would you like to see answer 5 questions? comment below and let me know. 

i have had such a joy being surrounded by some of the most passionate, humble, and Christ-centered kidmin leaders this week at the annual apcmo (alabama preschool and children’s ministry organization) retreat. what a gift to serve in a state that is intentional about networking and growing together as ministry leaders. i promised that i would share some of my links and notes from our four sessions together so here they are.

session one – your story

Psalm 78:1-8″My people, hear my instruction; listen to what I say. I will declare wise sayings; I will speak mysteries from the past— things we have heard and known and that our fathers have passed down to us. We must not hide them from their children, but must tell a future generation the praises of the LordHis might, and the wonderful works He has performed. He established a testimony in Jacob and set up a law in Israel, which He commanded our fathers
to teach to their children so that a future generation— children yet to be born—might know. They were to rise and tell their children so that they might put their confidence in God and not forget God’s works, but keep His commands. Then they would not be like their fathers, a stubborn and rebellious generation, a generation whose heart was not loyal and whose spirit was not faithful to God.”

stories matter. ad agencies get it. the olympic networks get it, filmmakers get it. no one gets it more than God.

each participant was given a file folder and asked to draw a timeline of their life on the inside. then, they were instructed to travel through the following stations. some of these stations were taken from an adult activity from centrikid in 2010, others were written especially for this event. download station instructions here.

links:
the apple commercial
the jessie diggins commercial


session two – equipping volunteers to tell the story

 

“The Bible is not a story about heroes we should emulate, but about a Savior we are to adore.” J.D. Greer

what do people leave your ministry remembering? you? fun activities? or the Gospel?

have we ever thought of doing an exit poll with kids, asking what is their take home for the day?

what is your ministry’s mission statement? does your mission statement have the Gospel as the goal? you have to set the end in mind so people know where they are going.

do you volunteers know the mission of your ministry? do you share with volunteers how their service supports the mission?

getting them on board

  • title matters – we call our’s investors – we believe they are doing more than filling a volunteer role – they are investing in eternity.
  • recruit with the Gospel in mind. don’t beg.
  • invite people to serve in your ministry.

training

  • do they know what is expected?
  • don’t allow policy & procedures to take priority over training.
  • have you helped them be confident in sharing the Gospel?
  • permission for lessons to fail – a successful lesson isn’t a lesson where every craft and activity is completed, but where the Holy Spirit is present and the Gospel is shared.

resources

  • Gospel God’s Plan for Me – my favorite booklet. it is in every investors binder, kidlife teacher binder, camp leader bag, etc. Lifeway has these videos for free.
  • the story (link below)

Gospel- centered programs

  • Gospel class
  • sunday morning
  • mid week

Gospel -centered curriculum – if it can be taught at character club at school or be on a Chick-fil-a bag – it isn’t deep enough. the Gospel is the complete story.

Gospel-centered events

  • less is more – i do less in ministry now than i did 21 years ago, but i am way more intentional now.
  • we aren’t in this to entertain.. we have to get to the Gospel.

list the events you were in charge of the last 6 months. circle ones that the Gospel were the goal. don’t wear yourself and volunteers out for the non-eternal

links:
dear mrs. donna video
Gospel-centered ministry training videos (free)
dale hudson’s article “are your cute lessons turning kids into atheists”
what you do matters video
the story Gospel presentation
Gospel God’s plan for me booklets
Lifeway Gospel presentation videos


session three – partnering with partners for the sake of the story

you can find a complete blog post on this topic with my notes here – partnering with parents


session four – the Gospel the goal in all spiritual markers

you can find a complete post on this topic with my notes here – making the Gospel the goal in all spiritual markers

apcmo ideas for spiritual markers are listed below:

prebirth:

  • cradle roll prayer list, pass along article, etc. to parents
  • baby blessings
  • contact, prayer, encourage
  • devotion for expectant parents
  • look who’s new & look who’s due in a newsletter

birth:

  • parenting partner
  • parent/child dedication classes
  • hospital visit, meal to home, gifts
  • spoon with name, ms pattycake dvd, book, etc.
  • mandatory meeting before dedication, talk about it on home visit
  • hospital visit, special gift
  • home visit, gift
  • parent/child commitment
  • 1st-time parents – policy/procedures and guidelines for nursery

baby dedication:

  • change the name to family dedication to not limit it to just small babies. we do a ceremony/brunch in a separate venue on sunday morning with families coming together for an intimate time. they write a family covenant, letter to their child& read it privately with their family. then, on stage in big church, they are recognized and do congregational portion.
  • a great resource we give parents is faith box (lakepoint church)
  • minister to those who miscarry/stillborn – ladies in the church knot small blankets and put it in a nice box with literature on clinging to Christ, etc. recognize that this child was real and values.
  • renamed family dedication – do a slide show, give out & explain lakepointe’s my faith box.
  • parent covenant, church covenant, meet with parents in advance
  • parent/child dedication – anointing and meaning
  • meet with parents individually befoe parents/child dedication. share what God calls us to do as spiritual leaders, share my testimony and ask for theirs. (had a mom accept Christ) give resources like my faith box from lakepoint church.
  • sent out invitations to parents/families of newborns and new mothers with children two months before mother’s day – baby dedication during morning service – charge to parents and congregation – new testament Bibles and certificates. also a slideshow with audible prayer form pastor.
  • family meal the night before (extended family invited) with programming by kids min & senior pastor based on parent commissioning that happens in the service. challenge parents to “begin with the end in mind” and choose two words/scripture for their baby. gifts/flowers for mom, baby, certificate with a picture.

seeking Jesus

  • moms Bible studies
  • talk with parents – book “faith of a child”

new believer/baptism

  • i’m a Christian now workbook
  • Bible if the child does not have one
  • i’m a Christian now what? devotional
  • letter to those who make a decision and sit down follow-up with child and parents
  • dvd of baptism
  • baptism certificate
  • i’m a Christian now retreat
  • devotion book and Bible to help them start growing and nurturing their relationship with Christ

new Bible

  • 3-year-olds group Bible on Easter
  • another great time to receive a Bible is 5th grade, just before they enter youth group. ask your youth pastor what version he teachers from and purchase that for them. (for example – esv study Bible) you, their children’s minister, can write a note in it & favorite verse, pastor, sunday school teacher, also perhaps.
  • at baptism
  • 1st grade Bible distribution – parent/child commitment
  • 1st grade – family approach: meet with parents before, parent note in Bible, parents give Bible to children through words spoken to child. child receives Bible and the child says some things to parents.
  • baby dedication (new testament)
  • 1st grade – one week before school starts

tween transition

  • second-semester 6th graders participate in youth group events – summer they move into wednesday night programs – full promotion in august
  • VBX – transitional
  • celebrate me! retreat major transition/preparation time
  • 7up party with 6th graders and families (special elements to this)
  • allow 6th graders to participate with students in summer activities one month prior to promotion. allows nervousness and tension to be a minimum.
  • separate 5th & 6th-grade ministry that has its own worship and large group environment and different small group material. also have separate vbs.
  • 6th-grade pool party
  • teen retreat in conjunction with youth pastor
  • 5th-grade summer transition: service, leadership, late night events, student pastor is their vbs Bible study leader in youth environment.
  • year-long group called crossover for 6th graders. special events, life skills, vbs mission project.

this past monday was one of my favorite days of the year – 24 hours 4 Him t-shirt day. after our annual 24 hours 4 Him event, we challenged all kids to wear their shirts to school and pray God would open a door for a conversation about what they learned.

we are very intentional about our event shirts making sure the front is Christ-centered and scripture is boldly displayed on the back. kids can actively be the church of today and share Jesus by simply wearing a shirt.

below are just some of the pics i received or found on social media. i gotta say they are pretty cute. 🙂

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